Pirate 1999 Scouting Report - Second Basemen

Last Updated 17 January 1999

On January 7, 1999, Mark Jareb (lshark@akula.com) posted the following to the Pirate e-mail list. I have edited it and included it here with his permission.


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Pirates
Tony Womack: 29-9/25/69; #7 '91; Guilford College (NC)
2B/OF, L-R, 5-9 155
Womack put up relatively similar numbers in '98, compared to '97, with a small, but unsurprising drop in power as the main difference. He appears to have gotten a little better defensively, with the numbers suggesting that he's still a little below average in the league. He was the topic of a lot of rumor, trade talk or a switch to CF this offseason, but at this point it looks like he'll be back as the starting 2Bman. He was eligible for arbitration this offseason, which seemed to make his departure a smidgen more likely, but he signed a one year deal in mid-January for $1.65M. Womack is often "discussed" in hyperbolic terms either as a horrible player or a very good player. He's a player who is exciting to watch, particularly when he's on the basepaths, but so far, while not close to horrible, he's been a below average 2B in the majors (average on Offense, below average on Defense in '97 - while below average on Offense and slightly below average on Defense in '98). Now, IMO, would be the perfect time to trade him, because he has some value, but the odds are greatly against him from showing improvement. In the majors thus far, he appears to have maxed out his primary offensive ability (his BA) while his BB rate and his power have been on the high end of his projected ability as well. Particularly, given his skills, his batting style, and his age, improvement in any of those areas are highly unlikely. His '98 season was a tale of two seasons in that he was horrible in the first half, but put up very good numbers in the second half. He was lucky in that in early '98, the Bucs didn't really have any replacements for him. If not traded, he'll be the starting 2Bman in '99, but with Morris and Patzke likely to be at AAA, he'll need to perform to keep the job.
Previous Womack reports
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
91 A-   166  46   3  0  1  17  39  26  5  277/344/313
92 A    380  93   8  3  0  41  59  50 25  245/318/282
93 A+   304  91  11  3  2  13  34  28 14  299/328/375
   AA   247  75   7  2  0  17  34  21  6  304/348/348
   PIT   24   2   0  0  0   3   3   2  0  083/185/083
94 AAA  421  93   9  2  0  19  76  41 10  221/255/252  181/        242/
   PIT   12   4   0  0  0   2   3   0  0  333/429/333
95 AAA  107  30   3  1  0  12  11   7  5  280/353/327
   AA   332  85   9  4  1  19  36  27 10  256/296/296
96 AAA  506 151  19 11  1  31  79  37 12  298/339/385  258/        314/
   PIT   30  10   3  1  0   6   1   2  0  333/459/500  000/000/000 333/459/500
97 PIT  641 178  26  9  6  43 109  60  7  278/326/374  310/360/357 270/318/379
98 PIT  655 185  26  7  3  38  94  58  8  282/319/357  244/302/268 295/326/387

There are a couple options for a MLB back-up at second base for the Bucs: Doug Strange, and Mike Benjamin, are both 2B-backup possibilities that are listed in other areas of the scouting report.


Nashville AAA
Jeff Patzke: 25-11/19/73; #5 '92 (TOR); Klamath Union HS (OR)
2B, B-R, 6-0 170
Jeff was acquired early in the '98 season from Toronto in exchange for Mike Halperin. A 6-year minor league free agent, he was resigned by the Bucs early in the offseason. Jeff has consistently put up a solid BA and OBP numbers at higher levels. He has somewhat of a platoon split where he's better from the left side of the plate. Initially, he began his career as a SS; most scouting reports list him as a solid defensive 2Bman (from average to decidely above average), though his demise in the Toronto organization was partially due to some of their scouts perceiving a lack of range at 2B. I personally think he'd be a better player (on both offense and defense) than Tony Womack if Patzke was installed as the Buc's starting 2Bman. That won't happen unless Womack is traded and even then, Jeff would be competing with Warren Morris for the job. Patzke will be competing this spring for the utility IF/LH PH job mostly against Doug Strange -- Jeff's the dark horse primarily because of Strange's $550K guaranteed contract. The most likely scenario is that Patzke starts the year in Nashville as the utility IFer even though he's a better bet than any of the likely middle IFers for the Bucs (Womack, Benjamin, Bournigal, and Strange) to put up above average numbers in Pittsburgh in '99.
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
92 R     21   2   0  0  0   3   2   0  1  095/208/095
   R+   193  42   4  0  2  17  42   3  1  218/281/269
93 R+   273  80  11  2  1  34  31   5  7  293/374/359
94 A    271  55  10  1  4  36  57   7  3  203/300/292
95 A+   470 124  32  6 11  85  81   5  3  264/377/428
96 AA   429 130  31  4  4  80 103   6  5  303/418/422
97 AAA  316  90  25  2  2  51  66   0  3  285/384/396  123/        327/
98 A+    62  18   0  0  0   9  18   0  1  290/380/290
   AAA  361 108  16  0  7  48  74   5  6  299/394/402  292/398/375 302/392/411

Chris Wimmer: 28-9/25/70; #8 '92 (SFG); Wichita St.
2B, R-R, 5-11 175

(6-yr minor league free agent currently unsigned)
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
93 A    493 130  21  4  3  42  72  49     264/
94 AA   462 131  21  3  4  25  56  21     284/
95 AAA  449 118  23  4  2  31  49  13     263/
96 AAA  345  86  11  2  2  16  41  11     249/
97 AAA   12   2   0  0  0   0   1   0     167/   /167
   AA   371 102  15  3  2  23  37  23     271/
98 AA   218  59   7  1  1  20  32  15  8  271/335/326
   AAA  135  46   6  0  1   5  19   5  2  341/366/407

Altoona AA
Warren Morris: 25-1/11/74; #5 '96; LSU
2B, L-R, 5-10 175
Morris was acquired in midseason '98 from Texas along with Todd Van Poppel in exchange for Esteban Loaiza. Morris has now put up two excellent seasons at the plate with a wooden bat. He's been a tad old for the level he's played at, but his strong numbers in the AFL this fall suggest that should not be a hindrance at higher levels. Morris was extremely consistent bewteen Tulsa and Carolina as well as AFL in 1998 -- that's why I think he won't have problems adjusting to higher levels. When he initially came out of LSU, there were question marks about his defense, but thus far, reports suggest he's been more than adequate at the keystone position. Depending on the fate of Tony Womack (whether he'll be traded or not), Morris will either find himself in contention for the starting 2B job, or find himself ticketed to AAA Nashville. The most likely scenario has him starting in Nashville with, at the minimum, an appearance in Pittsburgh in September.
Previous Morris Reports.
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
97 A+   494 151  27  9 12  62 100  16  5  306/390/470
   AAA   32   7   1  0  1   3   5   0  0  219/286/344
98AATUL 390 129  22  5 14  43  63  12  7  331/401/521
  AACAR 151  50   8  3  5  24  34   5  2  331/419/523
   AFL  137  42   7  1  8  11  29   3  3  307/356/547

Sergio Nunez: 24-1/3/75; NDFA '92 (KC); Santo Domingo, DR
2B, R-R, 5-10 170

Nunez was signed to a minor league contract this offseason to give us another possible body in the middle IF at AA. Strictly a 2Bman, he's a relatively weak hitter with a below average BB rate and a ton of SB. Up to '96, surprisingly, his age-matched numbers aren't all that different from our Nunez (Abe). Hindered by injuries in '97, he's still young enough that he could develop into a servicable backup. I expect he'll be the main 2B at Altoona in '99.
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
94 R    232  92   9  7  5  32  17  37 12  397/474/560
95 A+   460 109  10  2  4  51  66  33 19  237/317/293
96 A+   402 109  23  6  3  38  54  44 11  271/339/381
97 R     14   4   1  1  0   0   4   2  0  286/333/500
   AA   137  38   1  1  1   6  17  12  3  277/308/321
98 AA   435 106   8  0  1  38  59  26  7  244/307/269

Lynchburg A+ (full season, high)
Luis Lorenzana: 20-11/9/78; #3 '96; Montgomery HS (CA)
2B/SS, R-R, 6-0 165
At a young age, Luis has progressed in the organization up to the high A level. He's not a very good hitter, though since it's so early in his career and he does appear to have a decent batting eye, he still has time to develop into one. The reason he's been promoted so steadily is that his defense is solid. He may be in Altoona in '99 but with the various signings at higher levels and his age I think it's more likely that he'll start '99 in Lynchburg.
Previous Lorenzana reports
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
96 GCL   53   8   1  0  0  12   8   0  1  151/313/170
   A-   128  25   8  1  0  16  26   1  4  195/293/273
97 A    288  68  11  1  0  31  66   4  5  236/314/281
98 A+   283  67   7  2  2  35  62   2  2  237/329/297

Hickory A (full season, low)
Terrance Freeman: 24-1/24/75; #31 (D&F) '94 (Oakland); Edison CC (FL)
2B, B-R, 5-9 165
(gone via minor league Rule V draft)
Williamsport A- (short season)
Victor Araujo: 19-1/16/80; NDFA '97; San Pedro de Macoris, DR
2B/SS, R-R, 6-0 180
Araujo played mostly SS in Bradenton while exclusively playing 2B at Erie. He actually was called up to Erie in July due to a relative dearth of 2B, sent back to Bradenton in late July when Ravelo was promoted to Erie, and then came back to Erie in late August. For a 17-year old, he accorded himself quite well, particularly the power he showed at Erie. I'd expect that he'll be in Williamsport in '99 though probably as a SS.
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
98 R     95  27   1  1  1   5   9  11  4  284/320/347
   A-    63  15   2  0  2   1  18   1  0  238/262/365

Billy Bone: 23-1/5/76; NDFA '98; Valdosta St.
2B/3B, R-R, 6-1 180

Bone was a non-drafted senior out of Valdosta State and initially signed with the Springfield Capitals of the Frontier League. In late July, the Bucs bought his contract, and then he hit very well in limited time at Erie. His strong '98 numbers, coupled with the lack of depth at high A, he's almost certain to be in Hickory in '99, but there's a slight chance he'll see Lynchburg. He only saw a few games of action at the hot corner with Erie, but he played primarily 3B in the independent league.
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
98NCAA  156  48   6  0  7  36  31  14  7  308/437/481
98 IND   79  24   1  1  5   -   -   7  -  304/   /532
   A-    58  20   2  0  2  11  12   2  1  345/444/483

Manny Ravelo: 17-8/8/81; NDFA '98; Santo Domingo, DR
2B, R-R, 5-10 155

Ravelo handled himself quite decently at Bradenton and Erie given that he was a 16-year old. The downside is that his main skill is his speed and at this point, he has no plate discipline. He definitely has the attention of the Pirates scouting staff as Paul Tinnell at one point noted he was our best 2B prospect. He'll get plenty of chances in the organization, and it'll be interesting to see how he develops. I'd expect he'll start '99 in Williamsport.
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
98 R     95  24   1  2  1   3  17   9  1  253/270/337
   A-    93  19   2  1  0   5  26   2  4  204/253/247

Gulf Coast (Rookie League)
Jonathan Prieto: 19-6/24/80; NDFA '97; San Bernardino, VEN
2B, B-R, 5-11 170
Prieto hit the best of the 2Bmen that played in Bradenton, but he's also slightly older and doesn't have the speed of the other two (Ravelo and Araujo). Given his BB rate and BA in '98, I'd like to see how he'll do at a higher level. He may get lost in a numbers crunch (visas plus other 2Bmen), but I'm guessing he'll get some PT in Williamsport in '99.
         AB   H  2B 3B HR  BB  SO  SB CS   BA/OBP/SLG  vs LHP      vs RHP
98 R    129  39   7  2  0  18  19   7  6  302/385/388

Projections:

Bucs: Womack
Nashville: Morris Patzke
Altoona: S. Nunez
Lynchburg: Lorenzana
Hickory: Bone
Williamsport: Ravelo Prieto
Gulf Coast League: draft pick


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